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Post by Backyard Brawler//Proeliator on May 20, 2010 19:39:12 GMT -5
The thing is, if you run shows on TWG using their simulator, you can book how you want to and push who you want, rewarding active members and such. Only benefit. Main problem with it though, is that you have problems with people learning how to play it at first. If you ever do try it, play up until level 5, realize where you screwed up, and then restart, or play up until level 3 or something. You can tell based off other members where your mistakes are made.
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Post by Tommy Musashi on May 20, 2010 20:11:25 GMT -5
I'm just going to correct a few things people have said.
First off, I'm pretty sure this fed started with VOW as its focus point with an RP side. Secondly, there has been plenty of times the VOW side has flourished when the RP side has been pretty much been a load of shit. Thirdly, EVPW was good for awhile because most of the people on that site were from GHW that just split off.
I started e-fedding because of VOW like Skull and I use to enjoy it soo much. It was a lot of fun to rp backstage stuff and just simulate matches not knowing exactly who is going to win. Now, agreeing with anybody else, it sucks and pretty much everybody is gone from the site except serious people which makes it hard for anybody new to try and play for fun.
Overall, I do think the VOW side is not doing so well, but I wouldn't get rid of it completely. Like some have said I would just hide it until somebody can deal with it themselves. And no, the VOW is not that complicated. I've managed it before. Then again, the people who use to do it got all hardcore about it to make it complicated.
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Post by Young Gangsta on May 20, 2010 23:17:39 GMT -5
Here's a shocker: I'm against the idea, and while I can respect your opinions, I don't agree with them...
Entirely killing off the VOW side: I hope that the VOW side isn't scrapped because a rough couple months of activity or a shitty system. To be honest, how much different is the game of VOW since 05-08 when GHWVOW was still in its prime? And as previously stated in this thread, did we scrap the RP side cuz a shitty few months?
TWG: In my opinion, there's always been more freedom in e-fedding with VOW. Not to mention how the game as a whole is more complicated as a whole for the individual Fighty fighty person
Hide the VOW sections: Only idea I somewhat agree with. Maybe I'm just being a sentimental, optimistic bitch, but I just can't call it quits on the VOW side. I can live with hiding the sections of the boards that have to do with VOW and keep them all on hiatus.
I know I can get some shit started right now with about three months off of school and only work to distract me. I can help run this shit and try my best to revive it, but entirely getting rid of VOW will change GHW and it will force some (whatever few we still have) valuable members out of the fed
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Post by Bulldogs (Duncan + Genesis) on May 21, 2010 4:53:24 GMT -5
One VOW card made since the attempted resurrection of the VOW side, and now we're talking about calling it quits??? What a load of crap!!!! Give it some time, give it the opportunity to get going at least! As a start, and to show my own commitment to the VOW side of GHW, I'll make an offer to run the Monday Night Show myself. However, there are a few conditions because I really don't have the time to commit to a full GM role at the moment .. real life has to take priority. First off ... I can only run the Monday Night Show - not Friday night and probably not the PPV's (although I will try to help out if I can on the PPV's) Secondly - I don't have the time to be updating rosters and reading 'all' the feuds that may crop up. Thirdly, and the main one - If I am going to run the Monday Show, then I want total control over it. I don't want to have to discuss matches, tournaments, feuds etc with other GM's or Staff and I insist on running it 'My Way' ( ) The biggest impact of this for GHW is probably that if the Title Shots are going to be decided in the same way as in the past (ie via Monthly Tournaments) then these tournaments are going to have to be run on the Friday Night show and not on Monday Nights. This could actually make things easier for whoever does the Friday Show as they'll have a set format to work to when doing the cards. I'll need an 'Office' so that anybody who is involved in a feud can come and see me to request matches on Mondays etc And, finally - I'll want to create a Monday Night Title (something like the old WWE TV Championship) that I can put up for grabs every week. I'll give it a month or two to see how this works out ... and if other Staff want to suggest matches for Mondays (to take up slack in tournaments for example) then I'll try to build them into my cards. Assuming all this is acceptable - I'll start work on Monday's card today and post it late Sunday or early Monday. If, however, there are any massive objections - then I'll just go back to doing what I was doing and forget about it. Lot of people on this thread seem to be backing the RP side totally, which is great - but seeing as GHW started as a VOW e-fed and it was the VOW-ers that helped develop the RP side, then it makes sense to me to try to attract more VOW-ers who could then become RP-ers as well ... keeps both side happy then
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Post by Matt Oliveira on May 21, 2010 9:22:58 GMT -5
Well gentlemen, tell me who to make what staff and I'll dole out titles and powers needed. The responsibilities and upkeep will be your own deal (as I'm unsure who'll get the reigns), other than that I like what I'm hearing!
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Post by Swanton John on May 21, 2010 13:19:48 GMT -5
I´m with DMD I can help you men in everything
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Post by Millson and Simpson on May 21, 2010 13:36:53 GMT -5
Yo, if I wasn't a VOW veteran, I wouldn't even have heard about this thread, but I did and I like it, so the VOW side needs to be up still. I can also help with anything you staff need.
Plus, I won the Hardcore Division title, and I don't want to relinquish it straight away, because there is no VOW left
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Post by Young Gangsta on May 21, 2010 15:29:27 GMT -5
I'm up for any jobs necessary. I'm assuming GM positions are filled with Greenspark and DMD, so what's left?
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Post by Metal Dragon on May 21, 2010 17:15:52 GMT -5
Just a second, I need to answer one thing... The thing is, if you run shows on TWG using their simulator, you can book how you want to and push who you want, rewarding active members and such. You can do that on VOW by booking cards based on feuds instead of tournaments. How many title holders have we had recently that never even get on here and only use GHW's VOW side just for getting matches? How is it not obvious to everyone why only a select few people make VOW-related roleplay threads?
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Post by Desperado on May 22, 2010 3:14:04 GMT -5
That's the point I brought up with DMD through a PM and hopefully that is the approach we will be going with. Not this whole pointless tournaments every month.
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Post by Young Gangsta on May 22, 2010 8:25:47 GMT -5
To be honest, at the moment, I doubt we have enough Fighty fighty persons on the roster for a tournament, let alone division specific tourneys
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Post by The Original Demolitionist! on May 22, 2010 11:14:26 GMT -5
I'm on the fence about this one. Also, if any part of this post offends or upsets anyone, I am desperately sorry.
My *personal* opinion is that Virtual Online Wrestling is a crock of... well... you know... shit. I'm talking about the system itself here, not anyone who uses it. The reason I dislike it to the extent I do is that none of the players have any control whatsoever over their character.
However, I think the VOW side should stay open. With DMD, Young Gansta, MMM and Green Spark volunteering to run it, I think they will do a great job. Also, the VOW side should stay open because of the potential to recruit more members (obvious, I know.)
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Post by Ryan Hughes on May 22, 2010 12:30:42 GMT -5
Yeah, call me a pessimist, but I don't think this will flourish as much as everyone hopes.
I'm not doubting any of your abilities as a GM/boss, it's just that I think interest in VOW (and to some extent wrestling roleplay feds in general) is dwindling. I hardly ever go on VOW since my LDWA GM days, but from what I hear from a few people, the guys that run the show aren't... good. That and the fact that it seems people are taking VOW WAY too seriously in some cases, much so that new guys and LAW's can't catch a break. I may be wrong in this, but meh.
But I know you guys have the cojones to make this thing work, so good luck to you.
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Post by Metal Dragon on May 22, 2010 18:21:46 GMT -5
Yeah, not to kiss John's ass or anything, but the site really lost all hope when he was removed from his mod position there. Ben is almost as bad as Silencer, and when you have two of the world's biggest douchebags running the two biggest wrestling MMOs around, nobody wins.
tl;dr VOW will never be anything resembling fun ever again
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Post by Dominik Santiago on May 22, 2010 18:34:13 GMT -5
^ THIS TIMES A THOUSAND
I mean, I got suspended/banned for having siblings that play the game. Is that really unheard of? I had played the game for like 3 years. What's the point of me multi-accounting in VWO when I'm like 30 moves from finally retiring... LMFAO!
And TWG is the stupidest thing I've ever played.
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