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Post by Sketch Kid on Aug 23, 2010 21:58:24 GMT -5
Writing entrances is a buzz kill in my opinion, that's all I'm saying. But if it does come down to entrances I'll just copy and paste like I used to do.
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Post by TPK on Aug 24, 2010 18:10:26 GMT -5
I still don't think they should count, and if they do. I say we should be able to cut and paste match posts also
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Post by Hayden on Sept 7, 2010 5:52:12 GMT -5
Just found this thread again.
Think about it this way. As a teacher, the one thing I try to do to get kids to improve their writing is to set the scene better. If the way you set up for the match is crap, you're not really giving the other guy a chance to bounce ideas off you or be very inspirational to the match itself. If a Fighty fighty person entered IRL like that, it wouldn't make for good tv, would it?
I'm not asking for anybody to take away from their match posts, the opposite in face. I just think that every post should be carefully thought out and some effort go into it, be it entrances or match posts.
I know this is a bit late now, but I suppose it is the one thing that I feel strongly about in the world of fedding, and its the one thing that tends to kill my enthusiasm if done poorly.
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Post by Backyard Brawler//Proeliator on Sept 7, 2010 8:47:51 GMT -5
Well Hayden, in response to your post... if the best writers won every match, you and Dom would essentially be undefeated. I made a push to make the writing quality more important in the determination of winners, but I doubt that will ever happen, but I digress.
I agree about entrances, but I don't think they should count. However, I would like the idea of being able to disqualify people who don't post an entrance above a 3rd grade level.
__________ Walks to the ring is not acceptable and should be deleted. I'm guilty of doing things similar, but that's just my added 2 cents from earlier.
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Post by Vladimir T. Strife on Sept 7, 2010 9:49:39 GMT -5
Isn't it a bit of a simpler solution to just find better opponents if it bothers you? I mean... sure, it's annoying to do a few paragraphs on your entrance and have your opponent do 1 sentence, but the 1 liners/shitty intros seem to be an oddity in my experiences.
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Post by TPK on Sept 7, 2010 9:58:13 GMT -5
Here is a point I *think* was made earlier and I will reiterate here in case it was missed, as I think it's a good point. How much more "effort" does it take for someone to do a copy and paste intro than a one or two line intro? Yet...nobody bats an eyelash when THOSE come up. The point is, the intro is not really all that important compared to the match, sure it sets up the match, but a bad one isn't going to throw the rest of the match off or cause the guy who wrote it to lose.
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Post by Matt Oliveira on Sept 7, 2010 10:06:28 GMT -5
Isn't it a bit of a simpler solution to just find better opponents if it bothers you? The one example that inspired Hayden to talk about this was his match against James Walker, and he's KOTDM champ at the moment.
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Post by Vladimir T. Strife on Sept 7, 2010 13:38:04 GMT -5
Ohhhhhh. I'm with Darth on it. Sure, it blows when your opponent doesn't do shit for an entrance, but I don't think it's important enough to consider in with the match. Maybe we could start a penalty thing for people who do things like that and penalize them 1k for one of their post or something? I mean... it'd get people to at least copy+paste something a paragraph or more or give them a bit of a nudge for being lazy without trying to make people stress their entrance too awfully much.
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Post by TPK on Sept 7, 2010 15:49:34 GMT -5
Wait what? That's not what I said lol, I was saying if it's about "effort" a copy and paste intro is not much different than just "Walks to ring etc." Frankly, I don't even read the intros, they do nothing for me. If I were into RP porn, the intro would in no way, shape, or form get me "off"
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Post by Brad Windsor on Sept 7, 2010 15:53:02 GMT -5
If you don't read the intros... then how would you know your opponent has molested you before the bell was rung and had you believe nothing had happened? =D
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Post by TPK on Sept 7, 2010 17:52:26 GMT -5
Well I doubt I of all people have to worry about that I have a +3 Chainmail of No Molestation equipped at all times...
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Post by Vladimir T. Strife on Sept 7, 2010 20:35:19 GMT -5
Wait what? That's not what I said lol, I was saying if it's about "effort" a copy and paste intro is not much different than just "Walks to ring etc." Frankly, I don't even read the intros, they do nothing for me. If I were into RP porn, the intro would in no way, shape, or form get me "off" I meant I was with you about it not being important enough to factor into the match's call.
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Post by TPK on Sept 7, 2010 21:30:47 GMT -5
Oh..oh, yeah that I said.
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Post by Hayabusa on Sept 7, 2010 22:44:56 GMT -5
As it starts to get totally off subject...When you look at it your looking at a double edged sword. I agree that it sucks when I wrestle and if I am not posting first or even if I do post first and the next guy does a shitty job. But I also see how sometimes you get rushed and forgo spending the time with an entrance and just hurry the post so you can get into the match.
The tricky part is if you penalize someone for not putting effort into there entrance post even if it is only copy and paste which is something I did a lot of and then edited as needed to make it fit. You end up driving people away from E Fedding because they are going to feel overwhelmed and or they will feel like they will never get a fair shake because they started penalized.
Then again you have those who like the people who will put a little effort into the match entrance to bring a big feel but they get turned off if they see that the person there facing doesn't seem to give the match based on its placing on the card that big time feel.
It can be a buzzkill either way, Granted when I was reading a match I wouldn't mind seeing some attempt at a decent entrance setting up the match but I never penalized the guy for it. If a guy has time he should make one entrance and then save it to notepad so he can copy and paste it and then change what words would have to be changed to make it fit.
There really is no simple solution to it...I do understand where Hayden was coming from in the match with James Walker. But I also understand where the others are coming from when you get time constraints. Best thing is now that this has been aired out in the open either a sensible solution is made that won't drive people away because it becomes a chore more then having fun and enjoying oneself or leave things the way they are and focus on writing the best possible match that you can against whoever you are against.
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Post by Hayden on Sept 8, 2010 5:42:55 GMT -5
If I were into RP porn, the intro would in no way, shape, or form get me "off" But the intro is where the foreplay comes in. We're not too much into the foreplay I guess Darth, I'm in two minds about it all. I can see where everybody is coming from. I guess the last thing I want to happen is for a rule to be put in place that makes things less fun for everybody, or more confusing for everybody. What is the simplest solution, that will be the best. I will trust the staff's judgement to make this fair and consider all viewpoints in their final decision.
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