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Post by Psychotic Circus on Oct 25, 2011 9:25:06 GMT -5
My first official act as Admin of GHW! I'm giving someone a second chance, someone very deer and special to all of our hearts, and minds and eyes....
But, before we take this black sheep back into our humble herd, said person must come forth and apologize for their crimes against us.
*A shadow walks up and takes the mic from Jag's hands.*
TBCB: You know who you are.
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Post by Ryan Hughes on Oct 25, 2011 10:32:18 GMT -5
If this is Haven, you are so being stripped as admin.
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Post by Jaggeroth's wench. on Oct 26, 2011 1:54:23 GMT -5
*Takes mic*
Hello boys, I'm baaaaaaaaaacccckkkk!
;D
I would like to thank Jared for being mature enough to do this. You are truly a real man, Jagster. Not many would have the guts to do something like this. I owe you, bigtime.
As far as what you said I have to do in compliance with this un-banning, I have no problem with that. I take full responsibility for my actions, which at times were honestly uncalled for. I apologize to Ryan, Rob, heck the entire fed for some of the things that I did which were very ill advised and downright nasty. I lost sight of why I roleplay for awhile. I forgot this is just a fun game. It became personal at times. I'm not the first to go down that path, there's been several before me that have done so, and they met the same fate pretty much.
I understand from Jaggy that I must hear Rob and Ryan out on things, so if they're going to air their grievances against me I will go ahead and air my here and now.
There seems to be misconceptions about me that need to be cleared up, which arose from Rob and his gang, there was even a female character created just to spoof it. It centered along the lines that I get all mad everytime I lose and I blame it on bad judging. This is untrue. I have lost PLENTY of times across both feds, and only twice have I openly flamed the judging staff about it. The first was my KOTDM title match against Darth that Guy in a Home Run Derby match back in the day. A few weeks going into that match Matthew Oliveira openly admitted to me that he wasn't keen on me getting a shot at that title. I would have accepted his concerns if it were under the right circumstances, such as "You're not ready", but instead he cited his reasonings as being:
1) He didn't like the idea of a female holding the title, because it may take away some of the mystique of the sacred title, which had been worn by only men, not only men but very special type of men. He even mentioned that if I were to actually win it, he didn't want to see it painted pink lol. So for those of you who didn't like me painting the belt pink when I eventually attained it, you can thank Mattie O for that idea.
2) He didn't like the idea of me or anyone for that matter being a double champion. At that time I was also holding one half of the Tag Team titles.
He and Rob went ahead and gave me the shot though, but only so I would shut my mouth about it. I had beaten the guy who ran DTG a few times before so I thought I had a good chance of winning the match, even though it would be close, as were all my matches with him. DTG and I did the match and it as great, but I was on MSN chat talking with Rob, Matt and a few others when Rob said he would judge my match. Although I had heard people say in the past that Rob's made some questionable calls, I had no reason to doubt him yet. But long story short, he eventually told me that he didn't read it all. Too long. Now, I can understand not reading someone's stuff if it is in a promo setting or OOC thread setting, but a match post? That's unacceptable and downright disrespectful. I know some judges skim match posts, they've admitted it to me, which I think is wrong too. Anyway, instead of doing what Vlad does when he is too tired to properly judge/ read a match, which is to simply judge it the next day or hand it off to someone else, Rob made DTG the winner. I'm sure Rob figured "Well, Haven seems like a nice girl so she probably won't say anything about it." Well he was wrong. I'm not wired that way. I am normally a nice girl, but when I am wronged or a friend of mine is being picked on or wronged in some way, I get in the face of whoever is doing it. I'm assertive and aggressive when it comes to those things. Rob found this out real quick, and Rob being Rob was obviously not too receptive of it. But I do regret jumping down Rob's throat about it the way I did, and to Rob I apologize for that. I should have done the mature thing, and simply request the match be rejudged by someone else. I didn't and soon a flame war was started and from that point on Rob and I were enemies.
The only other match that I've lost that I've gotten mad over is the NeXus V match, and that wasn't even because I thought I had won. I should have never made it out of the second stage, nor should Rob. This isn't some assumption by one person, there's several others, some of them pretty respectable, that jumped down Ryan's throat about his judging methods. I saw the PM session between Ryan and Despy, where Ryan stated his reasons for his judgment, and it was just odd. It was really just, I dunno, mind boggling I guess I should say. Dom and Dustin killed everyone with their posts, Rob and I included, yet they didn't advance. Couple that with the fact that while stage one was going on, I kept getting IMs from people who are friends with me and also Rob, that stated Rob was going to "make sure" MD and Wolfie were in the final stage. I would later find out from Ryan himself that Robert (MD's IRL best buddy and roommate) helped judge the NeXus match, which probably shouldn't have happened, because even if Robert didn't judge any cages that Rob was in, he still could "pick winners" from other cages that he knew Rob could probably beat. I didn't buy into all of it, but then somehow, someway, it came true. It seemed a little too ironic. I now hear that Ryan has given more in depth reasoning why he did what he did, but it's a little too late in my opinion. What's done is done, time to let bygones be bygones.
Alot of people saw me in a bad light through all of this because I stupidly flamed Rob and a few others on the boards/on the site. But please be advised, I don't just flame someone at random. There's usually good, justifiable reasons for it. But instead of trying to do things off the site, I did it the wrong way and it spilled over onto the boards. I apologize to all of you for that, even Rob himself, although I wasn't the only guilty party to all of it. Guys, you just don't understand some of the bullcrap I had to deal with from Rob and his buddies off the site. Sometimes, months after I'd been banned the first time, I would log into MSN messenger and have offlines from GHW peeps calling me nasty things. Sometimes, out of the blue, I'd get invited to MSN multi-person chats where the topic of the day was Haven and how horrible of a person she is, even though I hadn't said one word on or off the boards about them (or Rob) in months. I would block their Im addy, only to have them create a new one or they would have another buddy to do their bidding Things like this drove me to become bitter. The best I could do was take pot shots at Rob in a promo here and there, as he did me a few times as well. Then, to top if all off, I get banned a second time by Rob, so I go back to EVPW and do a return promo there because I was already about to feud with Jade again, and what happens? Dustin, at the order of Rob, posts a really, really disgusting RP where he and Rob did some nasty things to Wolfie.
The reason I'm bringing all this up is so that all of you, especially Ryan and Rob and the whole crew can hopefully see where I was coming from, and why I got angry at times. I regret not having a better head on my shoulders at times, and for jumping the gun. I'm sorry I did that. Once again, I'm sorry I over reacted and hopefully we can get past this.
Now that I've hopefully put some water under the bridge, it is time for me to post a segment in the in ring thread. It will be all IN Char and will hopefully make way for a good feud. Keep your eyes peeled. ;D
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Post by Jack Tracks on Oct 26, 2011 2:18:31 GMT -5
Hello and all, heard quite a bit about you, etc.
But more importantly: Aren't you a zombie or something right now, IC? Curious how that's gonna work out.
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Post by Jaggeroth's wench. on Oct 26, 2011 5:00:17 GMT -5
Hello to you to. Nice to meet you. No I am not a Jaggy zombie. It will be written that the zombie he used wasn't the real Wolfie, just a look alike.
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Post by B&lly on Oct 26, 2011 6:27:20 GMT -5
If this is Haven, you are so being stripped as admin. Oh well Jag had a good short run I suppose.
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Post by Ryan Hughes on Oct 26, 2011 8:57:46 GMT -5
The only other match that I've lost that I've gotten mad over is the NeXus V match, and that wasn't even because I thought I had won. I should have never made it out of the second stage, nor should Rob. This isn't some assumption by one person, there's several others, some of them pretty respectable, that jumped down Ryan's throat about his judging methods. I saw the PM session between Ryan and Despy, where Ryan stated his reasons for his judgment, and it was just odd. It was really just, I dunno, mind boggling I guess I should say. Dom and Dustin killed everyone with their posts, Rob and I included, yet they didn't advance. Couple that with the fact that while stage one was going on, I kept getting IMs from people who are friends with me and also Rob, that stated Rob was going to "make sure" MD and Wolfie were in the final stage. I would later find out from Ryan himself that Robert (MD's IRL best buddy and roommate) helped judge the NeXus match, which probably shouldn't have happened, because even if Robert didn't judge any cages that Rob was in, he still could "pick winners" from other cages that he knew Rob could probably beat. I didn't buy into all of it, but then somehow, someway, it came true. It seemed a little too ironic. I now hear that Ryan has given more in depth reasoning why he did what he did, but it's a little too late in my opinion. What's done is done, time to let bygones be bygones. That bolded bit is what gets me. You honestly think that Hancock is a man who would pick shoddy winners from each cage? Granted I understand that a minority disagreed with the decision we came to, but deliberately picking weak winners for the sake of one man? Everyone knows that sort of stuff is the first step to killing a fed, so why would we - two of the heads of GHW - want to single-handedly destroy five years of hard work? And more to the point, why the hell would we have put HAYDEN BLOODY HARDKORE in there? Why not just go the whole hog and stick Seth The Damned in the final? That viewpoint is a really idiotic view to take. And more to the point on this fixing conspiracy. If I did want to fix it (and this is just hypothetically speaking), wouldn't you think that I would give Hayden, the man who is retiring soon, the man who has been in GHW since the start but never won the big one, said victory? Now I am sorry; call out my judging as much as you want, because quite frankly I am beyond giving a fuck, but when you try to say the judges conspired to FIX THE FUCKING NEXUS MATCH, shit gets real.
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Post by Metal Dragon on Oct 26, 2011 11:53:44 GMT -5
Well, good to see that at least this won't devolve into a flame war, even if there's some irritation in it. Haven, I'm sorry for being a complete prick at times. Taking out the fact that my life was completely out of control on you was unfair, whether I liked you at the time or not (and the sad thing is, we were friends until the first time I went absolutely insane).
Nobody was happy with the NeXuS except Hayden and I, it seems. I'm surprised that I even got to the 3rd round, but there have been times where I thought I posted horseshit and won, meanwhile there have been times where I thought I posted the greatest thing ever but lost.
Secondly, with the DTG match, I read it twice in its entirety, so I don't know where you get that I told you I didn't read it at all. I got distracted by a flood of IMs the first time I was going through it, which is actually why I ended up giving it a second look-over. If I ever told you I didn't read it, I was probably joking or drunk. That was one of my favorite matches ever that I judged and one of the ones I spent the most time on. As for the belt, I didn't like it, but that never swayed my decision. Frankly, considering the fact that I was dreading the pink belt, you are one of the only people to actually make me be a mark about something in GHW. Congratulations.
Now, seeing as both of us are ready to at least co-exist (although I'd love to patch up the friendship we had oh so long ago), welcome back. I don't exactly know what role I'm in right now, but until I figure out what I want to do here, I think I'm happy just posting stupid bullshit in the OOC section.
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Post by Jack Tracks on Oct 26, 2011 12:42:25 GMT -5
I don't exactly know what role I'm in right now, but until I figure out what I want to do here, I think I'm happy just posting stupid bullshit in the OOC section. Don't forget sending drunk PM's about your penis to the entire roster. WE WILL NEVER SPEAK OF THIS AGAIN.
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Post by Dustin Delta on Oct 26, 2011 15:01:47 GMT -5
Well well. Wecome back, Haven.
I'm sure that I'm the last person you wanted to hear a welcome back from after the dirty work from a certain post on a certain e-fed a while back. But I digress. I could spend time typing out another apology like I did in August. But considering the current state of what was once a friendship, it'd probably be a waste of time. And I usually don't like to waste my time.
So here I go.
My name is Joshua Peet. I played Dustin Delta on here since the late Spring of 2010. Being 14 years old and turning 15 early next year, I can say with some confidence that I am the youngest user on this board. I can also say with confidence that I have, by no means, a good reputation on GHW. I'm a concise writer (although I have a feeling this will be anything but) and I'm usually quite immature (see also The CondomBusters promo.) I know Haven dislikes me and Kahlan does too. I'm not sure, but I've had a feeling I annoy Millson and Jagg. Earlier this year, Haven was banned from this website by Rob (Metal Dragon) and I received a message from Metal Dragon soon after, asking that I put up a post on EVPW. I won't go into details, but it was gruesome. And I did. Now, somewhere in the dark corner of existence that I call my soul, there is some shriveled up node called my conscious. And to be honest, if I was to abide by it every now and then, I'd be a much better person than I am now. I went against my conscious in that post.
To provide some preface, me and Haven had been in talks of a tag team/stable in the days leading up to her ban. We had become good friends and started communicating through social media. After the beforestated incident, I sent Haven a (honestly) half-assed apology through Facebook. And in that, I never really gave a proper explanation as to why I decided to make that post. So allow me to explain. I had only been around a year, maybe less, and I had just been contacted by the forum co-owner. And I love the environment and the people of GHW. Knowing Rob and his drunk ways, I figured my options were do the post or get banned. And I really didn't want to be banned from an e-fed that felt like home. And knowing Jaggeroth's oh-so-controversial past, I figure something of this gruesome over-the-top nature would all be shits and giggles and I didn't realize the severity between Rob and Haven at the time, so going in, I was not aware Haven would take it so personally. Hell, I wasn't even sure as to why Rob asked me to do it. But because I loved being a part of GHW and I wasn't aware of the tense relationship between MD and Wolfie, I went ahead with it.
Now, let me say this before I wrap this up; I would say that I'm the most annoying asshole on this website, without a doubt. I'm the home of faggotry on Facebook as well (ask Jagg or Ryan). I figure it's these reasons that I don't have many /close/ friends from GHW. Though I can say with confidence that I've made three; Ryan, Jared, and Haven. And it really sucks that things had to go south of heaven between Haven and I.
Haven, I think that you're a great person and a great RPer as well. Like I just said, you're one of the few good friends I made through this and I really regret and I feel really shitty because of what I did earlier this year. I doubt you bother to read this and I doubt that if you do you'll even stand to co-exist, but I really hope that we could, by some stretch of the fabrics of reality, be friends again. What I did was foolish, immature, and ignorant. For that, I'm sorry.
I've spent enough time rambling on about the personal problem between Haven and I, so I'll spare you guys.
Welcome back, Haven. Welcome back.
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Post by Millson and Simpson on Oct 26, 2011 15:43:05 GMT -5
You don't annoy me Delta. We're like Curt Hawkins and Zack Ryder. One crazy misguided bromance.
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Post by Dustin Delta on Oct 26, 2011 15:55:08 GMT -5
You don't annoy me Delta. We're like Curt Hawkins and Zack Ryder. One crazy misguided bromance. MOO MOO MOO. DO NO SHIT.
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Post by Ryan Hughes on Oct 26, 2011 15:55:31 GMT -5
Well that's all fine and WHAT THE FUCK YOU'RE ONLY FOURTEEN?
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Post by Dustin Delta on Oct 26, 2011 15:56:36 GMT -5
Well that's all fine and WHAT THE FUCK YOU'RE ONLY FOURTEEN? Indeed I am.
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Post by Thomas Walker on Oct 26, 2011 15:56:49 GMT -5
She gave a "Yes I did do what you said, and I;m not sorry, but here's why I'm right and willing to put it behind me" sorry. Rob gave his "I was drunk at the time" apology. All playing parties have been appeased, even if Wolverina did try and call shenanigans on a loss to David of all people.
So, if you'll humour me, lets all agree to keep that bullshit off GHW in the future, dispense with the cringe-worthy apologies and bury the matter deeper than Vladimir Kozlov.
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