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Post by Dustin Delta on Jul 30, 2011 12:57:25 GMT -5
That way we could, though I know at one time people were against the idea, we could cut the shit from the real show and actually use show places as a reward for solid performances, including story work and promo work. Martin brought this up in the structuring thread and I really think is a great idea. Something that seems to be lacking in GHW as of late is actual story. Sure, people do the occasional promo to rip on their opponents and what not, but when is the last time there was an actual rivalry, going on for weeks and months? And when is the last time a match had real good story behind it in GHW? Maybe it's just me, but I feel like it's lacking. I remember in the first few episodes of EVO, Ryan included actual promos into the cards, actual spots on the show. It should be like that weekly, don't you think? It gets a bit bland when week after week is just matches. That's just my two cents, maybe I'm just being ignorant and maybe I'm wrong. I'd like to hear what other people have to say about it because I think it would be great to implement it. |
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Post by Millson and Simpson on Jul 30, 2011 15:08:06 GMT -5
Yeah, adding promo slots into the shows would be a good idea, but to increase competition, Hughes books the matches he wants and then takes the 3/4/5 best promos of that brand (or on the site, depending on what structure we choose). Only the best promos get chosen and so competition and storylines get better and more numerous. Great idea, Double D.
Oh and btw, the last rivalry we've really seen is Millson and Jones, thank you very much. I'll put in a massive post as the ending tomorrow to catch up with the lack of match RP'ing over the last week.
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Post by Sean Danielsen on Jul 30, 2011 15:54:13 GMT -5
Well, it's mainly down to the peeps who do the card. If they want, they can make a storyline out of nothing.. but from what I've seen in my 5 weeks here at GHW, we don't really have that kinda peeps in here. Or maybe I'm just not that good at being serious.
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Post by Sycho Sam on Jul 30, 2011 16:04:03 GMT -5
I think if someone is serious about having a storyline, they can make a good one themselves. Or at least, thats always been my philosophy in RPing. A good story to fall back on always helps motivate the RPers, even in a scenario where the rper loses a match. They can also improvise, just look at Sean's first RP after losing his first match and then being booked against me (the second test). That was some good storyline improvisation, and making something out of what seemed to be a random booking.
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Post by Ryan Hughes on Jul 30, 2011 16:20:38 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree with the DIY aspect of story telling. I can think of two examples from my career alone. In my first stint in GHW, I was languishing at the bottom of the card, so I got in touch with the GM at the time (which I think was Hawkeye), and asked if I could get him involved in a "battle for respect" story where I have to keep proving myself to get a look in. This intertwined with an even bigger storyline, which in turn bumped me right in to the main event within months.
Second time was in EVPW, when Nick Carson had the idea of a stable, which I happily included myself in. Before hand, I was only known for my TV themed TV title reign. Following the emergence of the Outcasts, EVPW got torn up by our band of ruffians, and we made an incredible story involving a lot of members on the site. It culminated in me beating Matthew Oliveira (!) after usurping Carson and shipping him to the sanitarium. Following that, I fought Vladimir Strife for the Imperial Championship and made a tidy little story out of that.
I think it's fair to say that I wouldn't be where I am today if I didn't work with other members and pull brilliant storylines out of my ass. Match quality only gets you so far in this game.
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Post by Sean Danielsen on Jul 30, 2011 16:53:01 GMT -5
Continuing from where Sam left off.. what I tried to do was sticking to the plan which we had originally made. Initially, we had decided that Sean would get kicked out of DS.. then join forces with Barta Bull (yes, he was in on it) and face off against two members from the DS at RWB in a tag match. In my bit, I think I did enough to keep the plan going.. if only it hadn't been for that title shot that I was awarded against Hayden, for no reason at all. That match really messed up the whole feud that we were planning. But as I said before, such is the trend here in GHW that even if you try to build up a storyline, you find yourself booked in a random match at the next house show which doesn't really help your cause.
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Post by Public Enemies on Jul 30, 2011 17:37:11 GMT -5
Continuing from where Sam left off.. what I tried to do was sticking to the plan which we had originally made. Initially, we had decided that Sean would get kicked out of DS.. then join forces with Barta Bull (yes, he was in on it) and face off against two members from the DS at RWB in a tag match. In my bit, I think I did enough to keep the plan going.. if only it hadn't been for that title shot that I was awarded against Hayden, for no reason at all. That match really messed up the whole feud that we were planning. But as I said before, such is the trend here in GHW that even if you try to build up a storyline, you find yourself booked in a random match at the next house show which doesn't really help your cause. I kinda suggested you be in that match :S  |
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Post by Ryan Hughes on Jul 30, 2011 18:08:32 GMT -5
And to be honest, you can't expect a booker to do much else unless they are told beforehand. I thought everybody went to the bookerman with their qualms and such, asking for certain matches.
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Post by Sycho Sam on Jul 30, 2011 18:39:23 GMT -5
Easy there Sean buay. Lol. My point was that people should make the best of whatever they're given in RP bookings... bad example probably, but just now in EVPW I thought of a wicked storyline just cuz of a seemingly random booking. Improvisation often leads to some great shit
And yeah, Ryan's right there.
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Post by Thomas Walker on Jul 30, 2011 18:42:54 GMT -5
I don't think storylines, unless its one where an owner or boss is power tripping, should be put on members. I've reluctantly agreed to stories in the past which I had no respect for and they turned out, well not awful because it was me, but below the standard I'd expect.
One thing I would get behind is for, in the results card write up, a selection of the best and most fitting promos to be acknowledged as having aired. We may not always comment, but I and I'm pretty sure every other person entrusted with staff roles do read all the work that we can so we could perhaps put forth in a staff discussion each time it gets to results which (for arguments sake) five promos made it to air. We'd make the cases for why they deserve the spot and off that information Hughes, Delta or whatever other booker could make their decision.
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Post by Psychotic Circus on Jul 30, 2011 22:50:18 GMT -5
I got a job now. Expect a giant story to come soon.............*Cackles!*
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Post by Sean Danielsen on Jul 31, 2011 3:57:50 GMT -5
I kinda suggested you be in that match :S Easy there Sean buay. Lol. My point was that people should make the best of whatever they're given in RP bookings... bad example probably, but just now in EVPW I thought of a wicked storyline just cuz of a seemingly random booking. Improvisation often leads to some great shit And yeah, Ryan's right there. Screw you both. I said I wasn't that good at being serious  |
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Post by Sycho Sam on Jul 31, 2011 6:00:10 GMT -5
I'll forgive you once I get the sigs I ordered.  |
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